Tuesday, July 14, 2009
WATCHING JEFF STONE SINCE AUGUST 2005
NEXT MONTH CELEBRATING 4 YEARS OF WATCHING JEFF STONE, SUPERVISOR AND HIS EMBARRASSING DOINGS HERE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY CALIFORNIA!
Jeff Stone - What A Crock & What A Crook
Thank you to xenubarb for the picture - hope you don't mind that I borrowed it here!!!
WHAT'S WITH THE LAME PICTURE?
From the July 30th event page:
Yes, I would like to attend. Please make 012345678910 reservations as a "Max-Out" Supporter at $3900 (entitles you and 4 guests to all of Stone for State Senate events).
HELL NO, I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU $3,900 SO I COULD BE A GUEST TO ALL THE "STONE FOR STATE SENATE" EVENTS.
HOW ABOUT ZERO POINT ZERO $0.00.
JUST VOTE NO ON JEFF STONE!
Yes, I would like to attend. Please make 012345678910 reservations as a "Max-Out" Supporter at $3900 (entitles you and 4 guests to all of Stone for State Senate events).
HELL NO, I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU $3,900 SO I COULD BE A GUEST TO ALL THE "STONE FOR STATE SENATE" EVENTS.
HOW ABOUT ZERO POINT ZERO $0.00.
JUST VOTE NO ON JEFF STONE!
WHY WE PROTEST - AN ACTIVISM FORUM
ENJOYING THIS FORUM - WHY WE PROTEST.
YES, WHY WE PROTEST JEFF STONE!
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YES, WHY WE PROTEST JEFF STONE!
CHECK OUT THIS FORUM FOR "STUFF" ON JEFF STONE...
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I FEEL SORRY FOR MR. HUNNEMAN HAVING TO INTERVIEW LORI STONE
Last modified Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:08 AM PDT
HUNNEMAN: No rest for the weary
By JOHN HUNNEMAN - Staff Writer
Good Sunday morning to you. We're at The Mill for breakfast this morning
Lori Stone was weary.
The sister of Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone had spent the day working in a community ---- she preferred not to say which one ----- with a law enforcement task force that deals with sex offenders.
"You wouldn't believe some of the things I see," she said.
Stone, the supervisor, has come under some fire lately, because his sister works for him. Her role is to be an advocate for homeless, social, woman's issues and awareness of sexual abuse.
Stone, the sister, however is not on the county payroll but is paid about $65,000 per year by her brother from campaign funds given him by supporters.
She gets no salary, benefits or retirement money from county coffers.
Jeff Stone calls her a volunteer. Some have quibbled with that.
NOT JUST "SOME PEOPLE" - LOTS OF PEOPLE!
Still there is nothing illegal about the supervisor paying her with campaign funds.
"Jeff's donors are very aware of what I do for the county," she said. "If they believed Jeff made a mistake having me on the staff, they would let him know."
"People need to know what I do for the residents of Riverside County," she said.
Lori Stone ran down a list of her duties and commissions on which she serves, most helping those who might otherwise have nowhere else to turn.
There's not room to list them all.
Here are a couple of examples:
Not long ago she spent a day dressed as a dirty, disheveled bag lady standing along Murrieta Hot Springs Road trying to gauge attitudes toward the homeless. You can probably guess passersby responses.
"It was pretty scary," she said.
CAN YOU SAY THIS IS PRETTY LAME? GET AN ORIGINAL IDEA - TYRA BANKS ALREADY DID THIS!
When five fire fighters were killed battling the Esperanza fire in 2006, she called on friends and connections to make sure family members were not burdened with burial and other expenses.
The brother and sister have also gotten flack for Lori's use of a county-owned car ---- a Ford Explorer with more than 100,000 miles on it ---- to travel the county doing her duties.
She no longer uses the Explorer and now drives her own vehicle. Doing county work she is entitled to 55 cents per mile reimbursement, which will cost taxpayers $4,000 more this year than if she drove the county's clunker, she said.
VOLUNTEERS PAY FOR THEIR OWN STUFF. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CALLED A VOLUNTEER.
YOU LORI STONE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD USE OF A COUNTY CAR TO START WITH. STOP STEALING MONEY FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY TO PAY FOR YOUR GAS!
IF A CAR THAT HAS OVER 100,000 MILES IS A "CLUNKER" THEN MOST OF AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE!
Lori Stone also manages her brother's political campaigns. She received a sizeable victory bonus ---- $130,000 ---- last year when Jeff was re-elected, yet another source of controversy.
Once again, this money was from donors. Both Jeff and Lori insist her county tasks are kept completely separate from campaign work.
This issue has been circulated for months and so far no one has come forward with proof otherwise.
So if Lori Stone seems weary, it's with good cause. She's got a lot on her plate, a plate that costs the county next to nothing to keep full.
Call columnist John Hunneman at 951-676-4315, ext. 2603.
HUNNEMAN: No rest for the weary
By JOHN HUNNEMAN - Staff Writer
Good Sunday morning to you. We're at The Mill for breakfast this morning
Lori Stone was weary.
The sister of Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone had spent the day working in a community ---- she preferred not to say which one ----- with a law enforcement task force that deals with sex offenders.
"You wouldn't believe some of the things I see," she said.
Stone, the supervisor, has come under some fire lately, because his sister works for him. Her role is to be an advocate for homeless, social, woman's issues and awareness of sexual abuse.
Stone, the sister, however is not on the county payroll but is paid about $65,000 per year by her brother from campaign funds given him by supporters.
She gets no salary, benefits or retirement money from county coffers.
Jeff Stone calls her a volunteer. Some have quibbled with that.
NOT JUST "SOME PEOPLE" - LOTS OF PEOPLE!
Still there is nothing illegal about the supervisor paying her with campaign funds.
"Jeff's donors are very aware of what I do for the county," she said. "If they believed Jeff made a mistake having me on the staff, they would let him know."
WELL, WE'RE LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT HERE LORI. JEFF MADE A HUGH MISTAKE HAVING YOU ON HIS STAFF!!!!
Before her current duties, Lori Stone was a self-employed local businesswoman for 17 years. She was also a community volunteer known for helping bring the Susan G. Komen Race For The Cure to Southwest County, which has raised millions of dollars for breast cancer awareness"People need to know what I do for the residents of Riverside County," she said.
Lori Stone ran down a list of her duties and commissions on which she serves, most helping those who might otherwise have nowhere else to turn.
There's not room to list them all.
Here are a couple of examples:
Not long ago she spent a day dressed as a dirty, disheveled bag lady standing along Murrieta Hot Springs Road trying to gauge attitudes toward the homeless. You can probably guess passersby responses.
"It was pretty scary," she said.
CAN YOU SAY THIS IS PRETTY LAME? GET AN ORIGINAL IDEA - TYRA BANKS ALREADY DID THIS!
When five fire fighters were killed battling the Esperanza fire in 2006, she called on friends and connections to make sure family members were not burdened with burial and other expenses.
The brother and sister have also gotten flack for Lori's use of a county-owned car ---- a Ford Explorer with more than 100,000 miles on it ---- to travel the county doing her duties.
She no longer uses the Explorer and now drives her own vehicle. Doing county work she is entitled to 55 cents per mile reimbursement, which will cost taxpayers $4,000 more this year than if she drove the county's clunker, she said.
VOLUNTEERS PAY FOR THEIR OWN STUFF. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CALLED A VOLUNTEER.
YOU LORI STONE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD USE OF A COUNTY CAR TO START WITH. STOP STEALING MONEY FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY TO PAY FOR YOUR GAS!
IF A CAR THAT HAS OVER 100,000 MILES IS A "CLUNKER" THEN MOST OF AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE!
Lori Stone also manages her brother's political campaigns. She received a sizeable victory bonus ---- $130,000 ---- last year when Jeff was re-elected, yet another source of controversy.
Once again, this money was from donors. Both Jeff and Lori insist her county tasks are kept completely separate from campaign work.
This issue has been circulated for months and so far no one has come forward with proof otherwise.
So if Lori Stone seems weary, it's with good cause. She's got a lot on her plate, a plate that costs the county next to nothing to keep full.
Call columnist John Hunneman at 951-676-4315, ext. 2603.
Sunday, July 12, 2009
Supervisors turn in some staff cars
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RIVERSIDE ---- Political campaigns sometimes turn on the unlikeliest of words, symbols and deeds. In the race for the state Senate's 66th District seat, the iconic element thus far has been an old car. VOLUNTEERS DON'T MAKE ABOUT $65K A YEAR LORI!!! County regulations allow volunteers to use county cars, and the state Fair Political Practices Commission says that's legal, but the policy nonetheless raised questions about the cost, wisdom and appearance of the practice. WAAH, STONE WAS FURIOUS!
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Jeff Stone Using Fictitious Name to Sign Petitions?
WEB COMMENTS FROM A STORY THAT RAN LAST WEEK IN "THE CALIFORNIAN" ABOUT THOMAS BUCKLEY, LAKE ELSINORE CITY COUNCILMAN.
Readers had this to say about an alleged confrontation between petition gatherers and Thomas Buckley, the councilman they are seeking to recall:
Clarity: Actually, Buckley is in the good company of Jeff Stone who once signed a Temecula petition under a fictitious name, supposedly to see what it was about. Maybe Stone didn't have a phone camera? Buckley should run for county supervisor or state Senate or governor.
Readers had this to say about an alleged confrontation between petition gatherers and Thomas Buckley, the councilman they are seeking to recall:
Clarity: Actually, Buckley is in the good company of Jeff Stone who once signed a Temecula petition under a fictitious name, supposedly to see what it was about. Maybe Stone didn't have a phone camera? Buckley should run for county supervisor or state Senate or governor.
WHAT IS THE COUNTY SUPPOSED TO USE SMART CARS?
JEFF STONE DOESN'T KNOW THE AREA! SINCE RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF PATROLS MOSTLY THE RURAL AREA OF THE COUNTY WITH BADLY KEPT UP ROADS, AS WELL AS MANY DIRT ROADS, THE LARGE CROWN VICTORIA IS A MUST TO KEEP THE PEACE.
MAYBE JEFF STONE SHOULD TRADE IN HIS GAS GUZZLING DODGE CHARGER AND USE A "SMART CAR" TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY!!!
REGION: County considering smaller patrol cars
By JEFF ROWE - jrowe@californian.com
RIVERSIDE ---- On a trip to France in January, Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone noticed small police cars scooting about the tight streets of Paris.
"A good idea for Riverside County," he thought. WHAT A DUMB IDEA JEFF!!!!
Back home, Stone took up the notion of using smaller cars with Sheriff Stanley Sniff and the county's fleet manager, Bob Howdyshell.
They agreed on a test.
While Stone envisioned squads of small cars zipping about nabbing evil-doers, even before the tests cars have been decided upon it appears the incumbent Crown Victoria already has won, a triumph attributed to geography, habits, policing tactics and dips in the road.
Stone's goal is to reduce the sheriff's fuel bill, which totaled $5.5 million for the last 12 months. The Crown Victoria only gets about 18 miles per gallon. Hybrids and smaller cars can get twice that. The sheriff's fleet now includes 788 "black and whites," the Crown Vic patrol cars.
Stone became so enthused about the potential savings that he made the conversion to smaller cars part of his 24-point SCRAPE program, an acronym that stands for Saving County of Riverside Against Preventable Expenses. His goal: saving $3 million a year on fuel for the Sheriff's Department.
Finding a smaller, more fuel-efficient patrol car that incorporates all the Crown Victoria features and will be acceptable to deputies will be a great challenge. Patrol cars need to be pursuit-qualified, said Howdyshell, director of the county's Department of Purchasing and Fleet. Pursuit-qualified vehicles used in the United States include the Crown Victoria, Dodge Charger, Chevy Impala and Chevy Tahoe.
"The Crown Vic has done best for us," Howdyshell said.
Deputies apparently agree, although the Riverside Sheriff's Association didn't return calls seeking comment on the proposal.
But police organizations have come to like the performance and protection the muscular Crown Vic provides for patrolling.
To use less than the protection the Crown Vic provides "increases the chances officers will get hurt or killed," said Capt. Larry Grotefend, whose responsibilities include the department's fleet of vehicles. In addition to the patrol cars, the sheriff's fleet includes 163 unmarked cars, 300 vehicles for investigators, and 322 speciality vehicles, such as jail vans, buses and bomb-disposal trucks. Some of the cars used for undercover and investigative work are hybrids or other smaller vehicles, but none is used for patrolling, Grotefend said.
The Crown Vic also possesses a batch of other features deputies like; for example, it handles dips at intersections and rough roads better than the other pursuit-rated cars, Grotefend said.
The police model Crown Victoria costs $24,500 and comes with front-door armor, cooling routed to the trunk to keep radios from overheating, a special handling and cornering package, a tougher transmission and tires certified for 150-miles-per-hour pursuits.
Police cruisers then get what officers call an "upfit" ---- radios, lights, push bar, plastic seat in the back, prisoner screen between the front and back seat and kevlar sheeting on the windows, which makes them bullet resistant. That equipment costs $8,000.
Smaller police cars are used in many countries around the world, especially in compact metropolitan areas such as Hong Kong. Some small towns in the U.S. also are using smaller cars and the trend toward community policing in urban areas is getting more police officers out of cars and onto the street on foot or on new-technology scooters.
For now, the retreat in fuel prices is dampening pressure to save gasoline.
"There is a place for (smaller) cars, but to supplement pursuit vehicles is more difficult," Grotefend said.
Call staff writer Jeff Rowe at 951-676-4315, Ext. 2621.
MAYBE JEFF STONE SHOULD TRADE IN HIS GAS GUZZLING DODGE CHARGER AND USE A "SMART CAR" TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY!!!
REGION: County considering smaller patrol cars
By JEFF ROWE - jrowe@californian.com
RIVERSIDE ---- On a trip to France in January, Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone noticed small police cars scooting about the tight streets of Paris.
"A good idea for Riverside County," he thought. WHAT A DUMB IDEA JEFF!!!!
Back home, Stone took up the notion of using smaller cars with Sheriff Stanley Sniff and the county's fleet manager, Bob Howdyshell.
They agreed on a test.
While Stone envisioned squads of small cars zipping about nabbing evil-doers, even before the tests cars have been decided upon it appears the incumbent Crown Victoria already has won, a triumph attributed to geography, habits, policing tactics and dips in the road.
Stone's goal is to reduce the sheriff's fuel bill, which totaled $5.5 million for the last 12 months. The Crown Victoria only gets about 18 miles per gallon. Hybrids and smaller cars can get twice that. The sheriff's fleet now includes 788 "black and whites," the Crown Vic patrol cars.
Stone became so enthused about the potential savings that he made the conversion to smaller cars part of his 24-point SCRAPE program, an acronym that stands for Saving County of Riverside Against Preventable Expenses. His goal: saving $3 million a year on fuel for the Sheriff's Department.
Finding a smaller, more fuel-efficient patrol car that incorporates all the Crown Victoria features and will be acceptable to deputies will be a great challenge. Patrol cars need to be pursuit-qualified, said Howdyshell, director of the county's Department of Purchasing and Fleet. Pursuit-qualified vehicles used in the United States include the Crown Victoria, Dodge Charger, Chevy Impala and Chevy Tahoe.
"The Crown Vic has done best for us," Howdyshell said.
Deputies apparently agree, although the Riverside Sheriff's Association didn't return calls seeking comment on the proposal.
But police organizations have come to like the performance and protection the muscular Crown Vic provides for patrolling.
To use less than the protection the Crown Vic provides "increases the chances officers will get hurt or killed," said Capt. Larry Grotefend, whose responsibilities include the department's fleet of vehicles. In addition to the patrol cars, the sheriff's fleet includes 163 unmarked cars, 300 vehicles for investigators, and 322 speciality vehicles, such as jail vans, buses and bomb-disposal trucks. Some of the cars used for undercover and investigative work are hybrids or other smaller vehicles, but none is used for patrolling, Grotefend said.
The Crown Vic also possesses a batch of other features deputies like; for example, it handles dips at intersections and rough roads better than the other pursuit-rated cars, Grotefend said.
The police model Crown Victoria costs $24,500 and comes with front-door armor, cooling routed to the trunk to keep radios from overheating, a special handling and cornering package, a tougher transmission and tires certified for 150-miles-per-hour pursuits.
Police cruisers then get what officers call an "upfit" ---- radios, lights, push bar, plastic seat in the back, prisoner screen between the front and back seat and kevlar sheeting on the windows, which makes them bullet resistant. That equipment costs $8,000.
Smaller police cars are used in many countries around the world, especially in compact metropolitan areas such as Hong Kong. Some small towns in the U.S. also are using smaller cars and the trend toward community policing in urban areas is getting more police officers out of cars and onto the street on foot or on new-technology scooters.
For now, the retreat in fuel prices is dampening pressure to save gasoline.
"There is a place for (smaller) cars, but to supplement pursuit vehicles is more difficult," Grotefend said.
Call staff writer Jeff Rowe at 951-676-4315, Ext. 2621.
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Sunday, June 21, 2009
Is Jeff Stone trying to stop the truth from this blog?
Just received a message stating that Blogger thinks this is a spam blog.
This blog wants to put the truth out about Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone, through news stories, etc.
Are you trying to cover your tracks Jeff Stone?
This is freedom of speech!
This blog wants to put the truth out about Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone, through news stories, etc.
Are you trying to cover your tracks Jeff Stone?
This is freedom of speech!
Possible CA State Senate of Jeff Stone wants to fix Loophole
Thanks to Jeff Rowe of The Californian / North County Times for this story
REGION: Bill aimed at use of county car By JEFF ROWE - jrowe@californian.com
A possible rival to Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone's state Senate bid has introduced a bill in the Legislature prohibiting elected county officials "from making a gift of public funds or property to any person."
The bill by Assemblyman Joel Anderson, R-El Cajon, closes what he says is a loophole in current law, which allows Stone's sister, Lori, to use a county car while working as a volunteer for her brother. She works on women's issues, homelessness and fundraising for charities on her brother's behalf and is paid from Jeff Stone's campaign funds ---- about $330,000 over the last three years, including an election victory bonus last year of about $130,000."People are offended," said Anderson, referring to Lori Stone's use of a county car and adding that his bill creates a "bright line" guiding the use of public assets.
Disclosure of her use of a county car and gasoline earlier this year created controversy, but Jeff Stone and others stoutly defended her work. County regulations allow such use and Jeff Stone added that it would have been more expensive for the county if his sister had used her own car and filed for mileage reimbursement."(The bill) is aimed at his own political expediency," Jeff Stone said.
JEFF STONE IS USING HIS UNUSED CAMPAIGN MONEY TO PAY HIS SISTER TO "VOLUNTEER".
Anderson has been mentioned as a candidate for the 36th District Senate seat Stone seeks. Anderson says he is "looking at" entering the race. The seat now is occupied by Dennis Hollingsworth, R-Murrieta, who is barred by term limits from seeking re-election. Stone's campaign manager, Jonathan Buettner, said Anderson's bill is "politically motivated" and "proposes to solve a problem that doesn't exist. County policy in place prohibits what he is suggesting." SHE (LORI STONE) IS AN OVERPAID "VOLUNTEER" THAT SHOULDN'T BE GETTING ALL THAT MONEY OR CAR.
Assembly Bill 1399 now will go to committee, which will determine if it merits further consideration.
Call staff writer Jeff Rowe at 951-676-4315, ext. 2621.
No_On_Stone on Twitter!
Found this twitter No_On_Stone that is trying to "Save California from Jeff Stone one day at a time"!
Go for it!
Go for it!
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Jeff Stone’s Lies
SEE THE LINK FOR YOU TUBE VIDEOS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FROM APRIL 2009..........
Lirra Bishop asked a very simple question of Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone at yesterday’s Board of Supervisors meeting. Stone sat with his usual smug smile, not answering as usual. I have a feeling when this is all over, he won’t be quite so smug and the smile will be long gone.
All of Riverside County should thank these two women for standing up for everyone’s rights and daring to take on Stone who is turning into one of the worst examples of a public servant that I can think of.SOME COMMENTS FROM THIS POSTING..........
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Anonymous Says: April 23, 2009 at 4:36 am
I just have one thing to say.
Jeff Stone, fuck you.
SP Batman Says: April 23, 2009 at 7:31 am
I bet that seat was getting pretty hot there…
Benjamin Cisco Says: April 23, 2009 at 11:43 am
Jeff Stone is an embarrassment to the council and county of Riverside. More and more of the general public are seeing examples of the corruption and crimes that the cult helps to promulgate.
The critics of these corrupt politicians and the CoS will continue to help educate the world. It’s just a matter of time, especially with a gentle push from fine folks like Mark who help broadcast the truth. The ‘bad men’ are going down… [I hope some of the poor folks in RPFs are aware of this.]
Supervisor Jeff Stone Says: April 23, 2009 at 3:33 pm
The Anonymous Pamphlet was given to me by Xenu, Ovelord of the Galactic Confederation. Sorry for the delay in answering your request.
Xenumania Says: April 23, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Lirra Bishop is awesome. She has all my respect.
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Jeff Stone’s Unethical Behavior
Jeff Stone’s Unethical Behavior
This is why we need newspapers. Reporters like Julia Glick from the Riverside Press-Enterprise do us all a favor when they bring to light the unethical behavior of local politicians like Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone who touts his sister as a volunteer for the county, yet last year he paid her $40,000 more out of campaign funds than he made as a County Supervisor.
Supervisor Jeff Stone frequently praises his sister as Riverside County’s best bargain because she works full-time as an unpaid volunteer in his office.
But records show he paid Lori Stone more than $180,000 in campaign money last year for political consulting and professional services and he assigned her the free use of a county car with taxpayer-funded gasoline included.
Over the past three years, Stone’s campaign payments to his sister totaled about $330,000.
In reporting this story, The Press-Enterprise tried to interview Lori Stone and another staff member. Jeff Stone directed them not to comment and asked that requests be referred to him.
Jeff Stone has been shilling for Scientology but his days may be numbered. In this time of outrage over AIG bonuses, do we really want to hear that a politician’s sister gets paid $181,000 for “volunteering” and is given a free vehicle and gas courtesy of the taxpayers?
That’s not volunteering, Mr. Stone. And you’re no representative of the people.
DEAR JEFF STONE: VOLUNTEERS DON'T GET PAID! I VOLUNTEER, AND DON'T GET PAID. I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG I GUESS!
This is why we need newspapers. Reporters like Julia Glick from the Riverside Press-Enterprise do us all a favor when they bring to light the unethical behavior of local politicians like Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone who touts his sister as a volunteer for the county, yet last year he paid her $40,000 more out of campaign funds than he made as a County Supervisor.
Supervisor Jeff Stone frequently praises his sister as Riverside County’s best bargain because she works full-time as an unpaid volunteer in his office.
But records show he paid Lori Stone more than $180,000 in campaign money last year for political consulting and professional services and he assigned her the free use of a county car with taxpayer-funded gasoline included.
Over the past three years, Stone’s campaign payments to his sister totaled about $330,000.
In reporting this story, The Press-Enterprise tried to interview Lori Stone and another staff member. Jeff Stone directed them not to comment and asked that requests be referred to him.
Jeff Stone has been shilling for Scientology but his days may be numbered. In this time of outrage over AIG bonuses, do we really want to hear that a politician’s sister gets paid $181,000 for “volunteering” and is given a free vehicle and gas courtesy of the taxpayers?
That’s not volunteering, Mr. Stone. And you’re no representative of the people.
DEAR JEFF STONE: VOLUNTEERS DON'T GET PAID! I VOLUNTEER, AND DON'T GET PAID. I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG I GUESS!
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Thursday, February 23, 2006
PROTECTING THE INTEREST OF THE DRUG COMPANIES AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA
PUBLISHED IN "THE CALIFORNIAN" 23 FEBRUARY 2006 - COMMUNITY FORUM
JEFF STONE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE, NOT THE DRUG COMPANIES & MEDICAL MARIJUANA. AS MY BEST FRIEND SAID, JEFF STONE IS NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!
Much better choices than marijuana for medical uses
By: JEFF STONE - Proposition 215, "The Compassionate Use of Marijuana Initiative," has placed local government in a legal and ethical quandary.
The ethical quandary that I have as a pharmacist is allowing lay people to open dispensaries for profit and supply marijuana to people without any quality control over what's dispensed or accountability to those being dispensed this potent drug. Can we ensure that marijuana is pure and unadulterated?
THE REST OF THE ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND AT THE INCLUDED LINK. OR, PUT THIS URL IN YOUR BROWSER: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/02/23/opinion/commentary/18_29_082_22_06.txt
I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS "COMMUNITY FORUM" LETTER BY JEFF STONE.
Comments On This Story
Patrick wrote on February 23, 2006 12:32 PM:"Well said Jim!! Jeff Stone is a purveyor of dangerous drugs that kill more people than all "illegal" drugs combined. His conflict of interest is far too apparent. "Puzzeled", trust me, when you are dying, smoke is the last thing on your mind. Get a grip. You inhale far more toxic waste sitting in your car waiting in traffic on the 5! The facts are plain and simple, Jeff has a vested interest in the pharmaceutical business, why would he want to endanger that??"
Paul wrote on February 23, 2006 11:18 AM:"Stone was elected County Supervisor -- he was not voted into office to be the County Pharmacist. Most drug studies rely on patient feedback as well as scientific data, but Stone would pick and choose only the information that supports his argument -- and protects his source of income. Stone has many masters, from his pharmaceutical oath of practice to his oath of office to represent the will of his constituents. From the volume of feedback, a majority of his constituents supported the compassionate use of a natural drug for medicinal purposes when they approved Proposition 215 and still support its controlled use for that purpose today. In this case, Stone appears to be representing his own private pharmacy practice. What about that ethical quandary? Also, numerous stories show drug use decreasing among teens since prop 215 won voter approval. Another Stone postulation goes up in smoke."
Puzzled wrote on February 23, 2006 10:19 AM:"Let me get this straight in my own mind... Your already sick? And you want to ingest smoke? And that will make you feel better? You have no idea how much of THC you actually ingesting? But, you don't care about that? All you know is, it makes you feel better. But smoking make you feel better? Have you tried smoking other things? Have they made you feel better? If not, why not? Have you even tried any of the drugs Mr. Stone has suggested? Have they helped? Just one more thing.... Smoking makes you feel better? Ingesting smoke makes you feel better? Oh, one more thing... Why do you want to involve some one else? You already know where to get it, right?"
Jim wrote on February 23, 2006 10:01 AM:"Jeff - If you are so concerned about people getting quality medical cannabis then you should work to get cannabis reclassified as a schedule II drug under the 'Controlled Substances Act'. Then it could be distributed through regular pharmacies. You won't because cannabis (as a unpatentable natural herb) is a threat to pharmaceutical industry profits. Besides you aren't a doctor and have no business interjecting yourself between the doctor/patient relationship. You also don't make a very good constitutional scholar or you'd know that the 'supremacy clause' doesn't give the federal government the right to run roughshod over states rights, read the 10th Amendment. You should find another profession because you don't make a very good county supervisor either. Get a life and leave sick and dying Californians alone!"
rsteeb wrote on February 23, 2006 9:08 AM:"Whether Mr. Stone's pharmacy offers alternatives to cannabis is irrelevant. There is no moral authority to discourage ANY responsible adult use of cannabis in a nation with thriving tobacco and alcohol industries. Yes, Federal law is in conflict with California law, and a growing number of other enlightened states. Cannabis should be removed from the 1970 Controlled Substances Act entirely."
Gimmeabreak wrote on February 23, 2006 8:56 AM:"This guy is ridiculous. If he knew anything about medication, he would know why Marinol is absolutlely not enough. It is a poor substitute for marjuana, which has 60 active cannabinoids. Moreover, try getting someone on chemo to swallow the marinol pill. Even if its not the best option, why imprison people who use marijuana. People like Jeff Stone really anger me. "
Jeff wrote on February 23, 2006 8:29 AM:"Jeff Stone is a Riverside County Supervisor. He's following the pattern of grandstanding set by the San Diego County Board of Supervisors. Jeff has plenty of real issues to address that are critically important to Riverside County. Apparently he has nothing of importance to say about them."
Vryht wrote on February 23, 2006 1:44 AM:"There is a reason Jeff Stone is no longer a doctor....he is really bad at it. An informed doctor KNOWS there are no antinausea medications that have mild side effects. THAT is why he trailed off on the topic instead of listing them. COMPAZINE is related to the drug THORIZINE. It makes a person groggy, confused, and they usually sleep for hours. A real doctor would have known that. Then he mentions megestrol side effects from megestrol are increased appetite and weight gain swelling of the hands, feet, or lower legs increased sugar level in the blood headache breast tenderness impotence decreased sexual desire increase in blood pressure nausea or vomiting dizziness weakness leg pain breathing discomfort unusual bleeding or bruising rapid heartbeat chest pain cough sore throat weakness or numbness of an arm or leg sharp, crushing chest pain or heaviness in chest sudden shortness of breath severe mental depression unusual bruising or bleeding Again a real doctor would have known that. Then he posts a spasticity "claim", I say "claim" because I can easilly Google that he ignores ALL current data. Sativex, a WHOLE PLANT EXTRACT of Marijuana has not only THC but very beneficial cannabinoids that have been found ESSENTIAL for relief. Marinol only contains just THC. And being a pill is hard to do when vomiting. Plus the pill is a fixed dosage. You take it a zoom, baked and useless for hours. With self medicated inhaled medicine people can take just enough to relieve nausea or whatever symptom and stop. Basically the article sounded like the writing of a politician that is sucking up to law enforcement and Republicans. Not one based on any science or even enough compassion for patients to do detailed research. Something a REAL doctor would do. "
Eric Widener wrote on February 23, 2006 1:06 AM:"As a cannabis activist, and a medical marijuana patient, after reading this I am simply speechless. Scare-tactics and plain lies."
wow wrote on February 23, 2006 12:54 AM:"If I chose to medicate myself with a cheaper and safer alternative to pharmacueticals, that's my business and nobody elses! Especially not the person/greedy pharmacy owner who stands to lose the most money by my [and a LOT of people like me] decision. An elected oficial who is a pharmacist is not going to represent a partisan approach to politics. It's time to say we've had enough of these attacks from greedy old school and narrow minded politicians. Who in the world do they think they are representing? "
Just for Laffs wrote on February 22, 2006 10:05 PM:"Stone talks of two quandries he faces in this issue, ethical and legal. He may be speaking from both sides of his face.He tells us, "The legal quandary that I face as a public official ---- sworn to uphold the laws of local, state, and federal government ---- is that state and federal law conflict," and then adds, "Under California law, pharmacists must observe the stricter of state or federal law." Noting that Jeff was a pharmacist before being a politician, and that his professional career pays far better than the two small stakes political gigs he has toyed with thus far, it becomes apparent that his bigger concern is not the following the law, but following the money. In his own words, "State law allows medical marijuana to be cultivated, dispensed, and used for medicinal purposes...". Cultivation of marijuana eliminates the pharmasist from the money chain, leaving Jeff a thrid quandry... a personal financial quandry. "
CONFLICT OF INTEREST wrote on February 22, 2006 8:11 PM:"Could anybody have more of a conflict of interest on the Board than this guy? You aren't VOTING are you? Your bias speaks clearly. You are supposed to be representing the voters that placed you in office, NOT your own wallet! You are brainwashed by your pharmaceutical pals. If you were really concerned about ETHICS, you wouldn't be trying to stop dying people from getting help. YOUR DRUGS are KILLING PEOPLE. What have you done to stop that?"
John wrote on February 22, 2006 7:46 PM:"Damn the marijuana laws. Pharmacists like this have tunnel vision. They can't think outside of the regulatory quagmire of modern medicine and the ethical conflicts of interest that make pharmaceuticals a huge business. Profits, prejudice and political expediency with a dab of puritanical ideology - the perfect prescription for tyranny. So I ask Dr. Stone... is imprisoning the sick and dying to force them not to use medical marijuana effective health policy? I think the good doc has lost his soul and doesn't even know it slipped away."
JEFF STONE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE, NOT THE DRUG COMPANIES & MEDICAL MARIJUANA. AS MY BEST FRIEND SAID, JEFF STONE IS NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!
Much better choices than marijuana for medical uses
By: JEFF STONE - Proposition 215, "The Compassionate Use of Marijuana Initiative," has placed local government in a legal and ethical quandary.
The ethical quandary that I have as a pharmacist is allowing lay people to open dispensaries for profit and supply marijuana to people without any quality control over what's dispensed or accountability to those being dispensed this potent drug. Can we ensure that marijuana is pure and unadulterated?
THE REST OF THE ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND AT THE INCLUDED LINK. OR, PUT THIS URL IN YOUR BROWSER: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/02/23/opinion/commentary/18_29_082_22_06.txt
I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS "COMMUNITY FORUM" LETTER BY JEFF STONE.
Comments On This Story
Patrick wrote on February 23, 2006 12:32 PM:"Well said Jim!! Jeff Stone is a purveyor of dangerous drugs that kill more people than all "illegal" drugs combined. His conflict of interest is far too apparent. "Puzzeled", trust me, when you are dying, smoke is the last thing on your mind. Get a grip. You inhale far more toxic waste sitting in your car waiting in traffic on the 5! The facts are plain and simple, Jeff has a vested interest in the pharmaceutical business, why would he want to endanger that??"
Paul wrote on February 23, 2006 11:18 AM:"Stone was elected County Supervisor -- he was not voted into office to be the County Pharmacist. Most drug studies rely on patient feedback as well as scientific data, but Stone would pick and choose only the information that supports his argument -- and protects his source of income. Stone has many masters, from his pharmaceutical oath of practice to his oath of office to represent the will of his constituents. From the volume of feedback, a majority of his constituents supported the compassionate use of a natural drug for medicinal purposes when they approved Proposition 215 and still support its controlled use for that purpose today. In this case, Stone appears to be representing his own private pharmacy practice. What about that ethical quandary? Also, numerous stories show drug use decreasing among teens since prop 215 won voter approval. Another Stone postulation goes up in smoke."
Puzzled wrote on February 23, 2006 10:19 AM:"Let me get this straight in my own mind... Your already sick? And you want to ingest smoke? And that will make you feel better? You have no idea how much of THC you actually ingesting? But, you don't care about that? All you know is, it makes you feel better. But smoking make you feel better? Have you tried smoking other things? Have they made you feel better? If not, why not? Have you even tried any of the drugs Mr. Stone has suggested? Have they helped? Just one more thing.... Smoking makes you feel better? Ingesting smoke makes you feel better? Oh, one more thing... Why do you want to involve some one else? You already know where to get it, right?"
Jim wrote on February 23, 2006 10:01 AM:"Jeff - If you are so concerned about people getting quality medical cannabis then you should work to get cannabis reclassified as a schedule II drug under the 'Controlled Substances Act'. Then it could be distributed through regular pharmacies. You won't because cannabis (as a unpatentable natural herb) is a threat to pharmaceutical industry profits. Besides you aren't a doctor and have no business interjecting yourself between the doctor/patient relationship. You also don't make a very good constitutional scholar or you'd know that the 'supremacy clause' doesn't give the federal government the right to run roughshod over states rights, read the 10th Amendment. You should find another profession because you don't make a very good county supervisor either. Get a life and leave sick and dying Californians alone!"
rsteeb wrote on February 23, 2006 9:08 AM:"Whether Mr. Stone's pharmacy offers alternatives to cannabis is irrelevant. There is no moral authority to discourage ANY responsible adult use of cannabis in a nation with thriving tobacco and alcohol industries. Yes, Federal law is in conflict with California law, and a growing number of other enlightened states. Cannabis should be removed from the 1970 Controlled Substances Act entirely."
Gimmeabreak wrote on February 23, 2006 8:56 AM:"This guy is ridiculous. If he knew anything about medication, he would know why Marinol is absolutlely not enough. It is a poor substitute for marjuana, which has 60 active cannabinoids. Moreover, try getting someone on chemo to swallow the marinol pill. Even if its not the best option, why imprison people who use marijuana. People like Jeff Stone really anger me. "
Jeff wrote on February 23, 2006 8:29 AM:"Jeff Stone is a Riverside County Supervisor. He's following the pattern of grandstanding set by the San Diego County Board of Supervisors. Jeff has plenty of real issues to address that are critically important to Riverside County. Apparently he has nothing of importance to say about them."
Vryht wrote on February 23, 2006 1:44 AM:"There is a reason Jeff Stone is no longer a doctor....he is really bad at it. An informed doctor KNOWS there are no antinausea medications that have mild side effects. THAT is why he trailed off on the topic instead of listing them. COMPAZINE is related to the drug THORIZINE. It makes a person groggy, confused, and they usually sleep for hours. A real doctor would have known that. Then he mentions megestrol side effects from megestrol are increased appetite and weight gain swelling of the hands, feet, or lower legs increased sugar level in the blood headache breast tenderness impotence decreased sexual desire increase in blood pressure nausea or vomiting dizziness weakness leg pain breathing discomfort unusual bleeding or bruising rapid heartbeat chest pain cough sore throat weakness or numbness of an arm or leg sharp, crushing chest pain or heaviness in chest sudden shortness of breath severe mental depression unusual bruising or bleeding Again a real doctor would have known that. Then he posts a spasticity "claim", I say "claim" because I can easilly Google that he ignores ALL current data. Sativex, a WHOLE PLANT EXTRACT of Marijuana has not only THC but very beneficial cannabinoids that have been found ESSENTIAL for relief. Marinol only contains just THC. And being a pill is hard to do when vomiting. Plus the pill is a fixed dosage. You take it a zoom, baked and useless for hours. With self medicated inhaled medicine people can take just enough to relieve nausea or whatever symptom and stop. Basically the article sounded like the writing of a politician that is sucking up to law enforcement and Republicans. Not one based on any science or even enough compassion for patients to do detailed research. Something a REAL doctor would do. "
Eric Widener wrote on February 23, 2006 1:06 AM:"As a cannabis activist, and a medical marijuana patient, after reading this I am simply speechless. Scare-tactics and plain lies."
wow wrote on February 23, 2006 12:54 AM:"If I chose to medicate myself with a cheaper and safer alternative to pharmacueticals, that's my business and nobody elses! Especially not the person/greedy pharmacy owner who stands to lose the most money by my [and a LOT of people like me] decision. An elected oficial who is a pharmacist is not going to represent a partisan approach to politics. It's time to say we've had enough of these attacks from greedy old school and narrow minded politicians. Who in the world do they think they are representing? "
Just for Laffs wrote on February 22, 2006 10:05 PM:"Stone talks of two quandries he faces in this issue, ethical and legal. He may be speaking from both sides of his face.He tells us, "The legal quandary that I face as a public official ---- sworn to uphold the laws of local, state, and federal government ---- is that state and federal law conflict," and then adds, "Under California law, pharmacists must observe the stricter of state or federal law." Noting that Jeff was a pharmacist before being a politician, and that his professional career pays far better than the two small stakes political gigs he has toyed with thus far, it becomes apparent that his bigger concern is not the following the law, but following the money. In his own words, "State law allows medical marijuana to be cultivated, dispensed, and used for medicinal purposes...". Cultivation of marijuana eliminates the pharmasist from the money chain, leaving Jeff a thrid quandry... a personal financial quandry. "
CONFLICT OF INTEREST wrote on February 22, 2006 8:11 PM:"Could anybody have more of a conflict of interest on the Board than this guy? You aren't VOTING are you? Your bias speaks clearly. You are supposed to be representing the voters that placed you in office, NOT your own wallet! You are brainwashed by your pharmaceutical pals. If you were really concerned about ETHICS, you wouldn't be trying to stop dying people from getting help. YOUR DRUGS are KILLING PEOPLE. What have you done to stop that?"
John wrote on February 22, 2006 7:46 PM:"Damn the marijuana laws. Pharmacists like this have tunnel vision. They can't think outside of the regulatory quagmire of modern medicine and the ethical conflicts of interest that make pharmaceuticals a huge business. Profits, prejudice and political expediency with a dab of puritanical ideology - the perfect prescription for tyranny. So I ask Dr. Stone... is imprisoning the sick and dying to force them not to use medical marijuana effective health policy? I think the good doc has lost his soul and doesn't even know it slipped away."
Tuesday, February 21, 2006
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN MENIFEE VALLEY
IF JEFF STONE WAS SO INTERESTED IN THE MENIFEE VALLEY, AND THE NEED TO "DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY", WHY IS HE AND THE OTHER RIVERSIDE COUNTY SUPERVISORS APPROVING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN A DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ZONED AREA?????? (see my continued comments at the end of story).
Development could bring retail, restaurants and aquatic center to Menifee
By: BRIAN ECKHOUSE - Staff Writer - THE CALIFORNIAN
SUN CITY ---- A proposal to commercially develop a large tract of land fronting Interstate 215 just south of Newport Road would not only bring much needed large retail stores and restaurants to Menifee Valley, but could improve its chances to incorporate as a city, 3rd District Supervisor Jeff Stone told an audience of 130 on Wednesday night. In addition to two or three big box stores ---- possibly including a Home Depot ---- the 750,000-square-foot project, proposed the development firm, Donahue Schreiber, could have an aquatic center plus nine acres devoted to a town hall.
"We're trying to get a regional aquatic center," said Verne Lauritzen, Stone's chief of staff, in an interview during Wednesday's meeting. "We'd like to get an Olympic-size pool, but we're not sure we're going to be able to accomplish that."Webb Hall in Sun City hosted the meeting of the Menifee Valley Municipal Advisory Council, a five-member board appointed by Stone, who was the event's keynote speaker. Lauritzen said Stone hoped the pool at the aquatic center, which would be paid for by the developer, would have at least 9 to 14 lanes."That way, we could use it for some (local) clubs," he said. If a deal between the county and Donahue Schreiber can be reached, the development would boost sales and property tax dollars that could help the valley in its bid to incorporate. State law says a new city cannot be established if it hurts its home county financially. Unless there is a significant increase in its tax revenue base, Menifee Valley, including Sun City, would lack the financial base it would need as a city to pay for police and fire protection along with daily operating costs, according to a 2005 comprehensive financial analysis of the area conducted by consultant Economic & Planning Systems of Berkeley.
Currently, there are few big retail stores and supermarkets in the valley."We'd really accomplish two things: development (area residents) need, and provide facilities for the community," Lauritzen said of the proposed commercial development. "It's a huge, huge major project." Stone, who said he was "shocked" by the condition of Sun City's roads, also promised to have about a quarter of them repaved this year. He joked that there were "gardens" growing in some of the community's roads. The repavement project could cost $3 million, he said.
Other matters discussed at Wednesday night's meeting included the tending of abandoned buildings in Sun City and the status of Project LIFT, a Quail Valley-based center for low-income families. Resident Roald Schroeder of Sun City complained that abandoned buildings at Encanto Drive and McCall Boulevard have become a dumping ground. Stone said the county would clean it up.As for Project LIFT ---- which founder Rita Peters figured would be forced to close due to financial difficulties ---- Stone said he is optimistic the county could use community development block grant funds to buy the 2.1-acre site LIFT has leased. If a deal can be reached between the county and the Long Beach-based property owners, LIFT would be saved from closure, Stone said.
Contact staff writer Brian Eckhouse at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2626, or beckhouse@californian.com.
WATCHDOGS VIEW:
WHY BOTHER DEVELOPING THESE COMMERCIAL AND DOZENS OF NEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MENIFEE VALLEY IF YOU CAN'T GET THERE, JEFF STONE??? WHEN BUILDER "PARDEE" STARTED THEIR MONSTER DEVELOPMENT IN LAKE ELSINORE "CANYON HILLS" IN 1990, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP RAILROAD CANYON ROAD FROM A RURAL TWO LANE ROAD TO A 4+/- LANE ROAD. COTTONWOOD CANYON IS RUINED FOREVER NOW WITH ALL THE BORING, OVERPRICED KB HOMES/PARDEE HOMES THAT ALL LOOK THE SAME.
AND NOW........... ANOTHER DEVELOPER WANTS TO ADD TO THE MADNESS, AND DEVELOP 260+ ACRES TO ADD TO THE CANYON HILLS DEVELOPMENT, AND TO THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE. GO AHEAD CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, AND COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE - KISS KISS KISS UP TO THE DEVELOPER!!! YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEARBY RESIDENTS!
YOU CANNOT GET TO THE MENIFEE VALLEY FROM INTERSTATE-15 ON THESE RURAL 2 LANE ROADS IN DECENT TIME ANYMORE - NEWPORT ROAD (TAKES FOREVER, AND WHEN IT RAINS TOO MUCH - FORGET IT! UNPASSABLE AT SALT CREEK!) - BUNDY CANYON ROAD (TONS OF TRUCKS THAT CAN'T MAKE THE HILLS OVER 45 MPH SLOWS EVERYONE UP). A 10 MINUTE TRIP TAKES 20 MINUTES.
LONG TIME RESIDENTS ARE FED UP WITH RIVERSIDE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SUPERVISORS THAT SIDE WITH THE DEVELOPERS, AND NOT THE RESIDENTS.
Development could bring retail, restaurants and aquatic center to Menifee
By: BRIAN ECKHOUSE - Staff Writer - THE CALIFORNIAN
SUN CITY ---- A proposal to commercially develop a large tract of land fronting Interstate 215 just south of Newport Road would not only bring much needed large retail stores and restaurants to Menifee Valley, but could improve its chances to incorporate as a city, 3rd District Supervisor Jeff Stone told an audience of 130 on Wednesday night. In addition to two or three big box stores ---- possibly including a Home Depot ---- the 750,000-square-foot project, proposed the development firm, Donahue Schreiber, could have an aquatic center plus nine acres devoted to a town hall.
"We're trying to get a regional aquatic center," said Verne Lauritzen, Stone's chief of staff, in an interview during Wednesday's meeting. "We'd like to get an Olympic-size pool, but we're not sure we're going to be able to accomplish that."Webb Hall in Sun City hosted the meeting of the Menifee Valley Municipal Advisory Council, a five-member board appointed by Stone, who was the event's keynote speaker. Lauritzen said Stone hoped the pool at the aquatic center, which would be paid for by the developer, would have at least 9 to 14 lanes."That way, we could use it for some (local) clubs," he said. If a deal between the county and Donahue Schreiber can be reached, the development would boost sales and property tax dollars that could help the valley in its bid to incorporate. State law says a new city cannot be established if it hurts its home county financially. Unless there is a significant increase in its tax revenue base, Menifee Valley, including Sun City, would lack the financial base it would need as a city to pay for police and fire protection along with daily operating costs, according to a 2005 comprehensive financial analysis of the area conducted by consultant Economic & Planning Systems of Berkeley.
Currently, there are few big retail stores and supermarkets in the valley."We'd really accomplish two things: development (area residents) need, and provide facilities for the community," Lauritzen said of the proposed commercial development. "It's a huge, huge major project." Stone, who said he was "shocked" by the condition of Sun City's roads, also promised to have about a quarter of them repaved this year. He joked that there were "gardens" growing in some of the community's roads. The repavement project could cost $3 million, he said.
Other matters discussed at Wednesday night's meeting included the tending of abandoned buildings in Sun City and the status of Project LIFT, a Quail Valley-based center for low-income families. Resident Roald Schroeder of Sun City complained that abandoned buildings at Encanto Drive and McCall Boulevard have become a dumping ground. Stone said the county would clean it up.As for Project LIFT ---- which founder Rita Peters figured would be forced to close due to financial difficulties ---- Stone said he is optimistic the county could use community development block grant funds to buy the 2.1-acre site LIFT has leased. If a deal can be reached between the county and the Long Beach-based property owners, LIFT would be saved from closure, Stone said.
Contact staff writer Brian Eckhouse at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2626, or beckhouse@californian.com.
WATCHDOGS VIEW:
WHY BOTHER DEVELOPING THESE COMMERCIAL AND DOZENS OF NEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MENIFEE VALLEY IF YOU CAN'T GET THERE, JEFF STONE??? WHEN BUILDER "PARDEE" STARTED THEIR MONSTER DEVELOPMENT IN LAKE ELSINORE "CANYON HILLS" IN 1990, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP RAILROAD CANYON ROAD FROM A RURAL TWO LANE ROAD TO A 4+/- LANE ROAD. COTTONWOOD CANYON IS RUINED FOREVER NOW WITH ALL THE BORING, OVERPRICED KB HOMES/PARDEE HOMES THAT ALL LOOK THE SAME.
AND NOW........... ANOTHER DEVELOPER WANTS TO ADD TO THE MADNESS, AND DEVELOP 260+ ACRES TO ADD TO THE CANYON HILLS DEVELOPMENT, AND TO THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE. GO AHEAD CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, AND COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE - KISS KISS KISS UP TO THE DEVELOPER!!! YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEARBY RESIDENTS!
YOU CANNOT GET TO THE MENIFEE VALLEY FROM INTERSTATE-15 ON THESE RURAL 2 LANE ROADS IN DECENT TIME ANYMORE - NEWPORT ROAD (TAKES FOREVER, AND WHEN IT RAINS TOO MUCH - FORGET IT! UNPASSABLE AT SALT CREEK!) - BUNDY CANYON ROAD (TONS OF TRUCKS THAT CAN'T MAKE THE HILLS OVER 45 MPH SLOWS EVERYONE UP). A 10 MINUTE TRIP TAKES 20 MINUTES.
LONG TIME RESIDENTS ARE FED UP WITH RIVERSIDE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SUPERVISORS THAT SIDE WITH THE DEVELOPERS, AND NOT THE RESIDENTS.
AMUSEMENT FOR THE DAY
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Monday, February 20, 2006
STONE LOSING TOUCH WITH PEOPLE ALREADY
LETTER TO THE EDITOR - THE CALIFORNIAN - 20 FEBRUARY 2006
Stone losing touch with people already
As I watch the rise to political prominence of Supervisor Jeff Stone, I can't help being reminded of the old adage about absolute power and absolute corruption. Elected to represent the interests of his 3rd District constituents against the bully-boys of Riverside County, he seems quickly to have forgotten that mandate.
In December, he trampled all over his own planning commissioners to approve the construction of a high-density, 660-unit apartment complex on Menifee land zoned for commercial use. When several dozen of his constituents attended an appeals hearing to protest, he chided them for being small-minded and short-
sighted.
In January, he stood by while the supervisors crudely abused their "eminent domain" powers in an attempt to steal land from other Menifee constituents.
Now he wants to subvert the voice of the people of California concerning medical marijuana. He asks what would happen if we voted to legalize heroin. Give us some credit, Mr. Stone. We didn't and we wouldn't. Please don't insult our intelligence. In a remarkably short space of time, Mr. Stone now thinks he knows better than the very people who elected him. He is showing himself to be an ego-driven, developer-controlled politician who is out to make a name for himself. Well, here's name to conjure with ---- Judas Iscariot.
Les Nursey
Menifee
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GREAT LETTER LES NURSEY!!!
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I SAY...DEAR JEFF STONE: THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE PROTESTING THAT THEY ARE "STUPID" NOT TO UNDERSTAND THE GRAND PLAN OF THINGS... COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR THIS MENIFEE AREA SHOULD BE WHAT IT WAS INTENDED - COMMERCIAL! WE ARE NOT "SMALL-MINDED" FOR SPEAKING OUR MIND - HOW DARE YOU! TAKING AWAY COMMERCIAL AREAS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE FROM A HOPEFUL FUTURE CITY IS TAKING AWAY THEIR TAX BASE.
WHAT DID YOU RECEIVE IN RETURN ($$$$$$$$) TO APPROVE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, JEFF STONE?
BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELECTED YOU TO THIS POST DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU SMARTER THAN US. STOP THE INSULTING WAY YOU PATRONIZE THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE OF RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
DON'T STEAL OUR LAND, DON'T ASSUME WE ARE STUPID, DON'T BECOME ANOTHER "DUKE" CUNNINGHAM - STOP IT NOW!
Stone losing touch with people already
As I watch the rise to political prominence of Supervisor Jeff Stone, I can't help being reminded of the old adage about absolute power and absolute corruption. Elected to represent the interests of his 3rd District constituents against the bully-boys of Riverside County, he seems quickly to have forgotten that mandate.
In December, he trampled all over his own planning commissioners to approve the construction of a high-density, 660-unit apartment complex on Menifee land zoned for commercial use. When several dozen of his constituents attended an appeals hearing to protest, he chided them for being small-minded and short-
sighted.
In January, he stood by while the supervisors crudely abused their "eminent domain" powers in an attempt to steal land from other Menifee constituents.
Now he wants to subvert the voice of the people of California concerning medical marijuana. He asks what would happen if we voted to legalize heroin. Give us some credit, Mr. Stone. We didn't and we wouldn't. Please don't insult our intelligence. In a remarkably short space of time, Mr. Stone now thinks he knows better than the very people who elected him. He is showing himself to be an ego-driven, developer-controlled politician who is out to make a name for himself. Well, here's name to conjure with ---- Judas Iscariot.
Les Nursey
Menifee
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GREAT LETTER LES NURSEY!!!
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I SAY...DEAR JEFF STONE: THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE PROTESTING THAT THEY ARE "STUPID" NOT TO UNDERSTAND THE GRAND PLAN OF THINGS... COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR THIS MENIFEE AREA SHOULD BE WHAT IT WAS INTENDED - COMMERCIAL! WE ARE NOT "SMALL-MINDED" FOR SPEAKING OUR MIND - HOW DARE YOU! TAKING AWAY COMMERCIAL AREAS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE FROM A HOPEFUL FUTURE CITY IS TAKING AWAY THEIR TAX BASE.
WHAT DID YOU RECEIVE IN RETURN ($$$$$$$$) TO APPROVE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, JEFF STONE?
BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELECTED YOU TO THIS POST DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU SMARTER THAN US. STOP THE INSULTING WAY YOU PATRONIZE THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE OF RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
DON'T STEAL OUR LAND, DON'T ASSUME WE ARE STUPID, DON'T BECOME ANOTHER "DUKE" CUNNINGHAM - STOP IT NOW!
STONE BEING HYPOCRITICAL IN POT STANCE
LETTER TO THE EDITOR - THE CALIFORNIAN - 12 FEBRUARY 2006
Stone being hypocritical in pot stance
This letter is in regard to the recent actions of Riverside County's own captain of hypocrisy, one (Supervisor) Jeffrey Stone. Mr. Stone, while recently addressing a medical marijuana advocate on Feb. 7, made a comparison of marijuana to heroin, asking Mrs. Dege Coutee if she would support heroin if it were legalized. I'd ask him the same, except I already have his answer. As a pharmacist, he sold a substantial amount of opium-based medications, i.e. hydrocodone, morphine, demerol, codeine, and oxycodone ---- all closely related to heroin.
After he removes his foot from his mouth, I'd appreciate it if he could explain to my 70-year-old friend who suffers from glaucoma why he'd consider her a criminal for alleviating her pain the way that works best for her. After that, he can explain to my other friend who sits in a wheelchair at the age of 40 suffering from MS why he doesn't want to allow him to overcome his muscle spasms. And never mind the implications inherent in attempting to undermine the will of the people.
ERIC SCHARF
Temecula
THANK YOU MR. ERIC SCHARF FOR YOUR HONESTY. THE LETTER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
Stone being hypocritical in pot stance
This letter is in regard to the recent actions of Riverside County's own captain of hypocrisy, one (Supervisor) Jeffrey Stone. Mr. Stone, while recently addressing a medical marijuana advocate on Feb. 7, made a comparison of marijuana to heroin, asking Mrs. Dege Coutee if she would support heroin if it were legalized. I'd ask him the same, except I already have his answer. As a pharmacist, he sold a substantial amount of opium-based medications, i.e. hydrocodone, morphine, demerol, codeine, and oxycodone ---- all closely related to heroin.
After he removes his foot from his mouth, I'd appreciate it if he could explain to my 70-year-old friend who suffers from glaucoma why he'd consider her a criminal for alleviating her pain the way that works best for her. After that, he can explain to my other friend who sits in a wheelchair at the age of 40 suffering from MS why he doesn't want to allow him to overcome his muscle spasms. And never mind the implications inherent in attempting to undermine the will of the people.
ERIC SCHARF
Temecula
THANK YOU MR. ERIC SCHARF FOR YOUR HONESTY. THE LETTER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
Friday, February 10, 2006
LETS PAT ARROGANT JEFF STONE ON THE BACK?!?!?!?!
SIGN READS: TRAFFIC DIRECTORS FUNDED BY COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE SUPR. JEFF STONE
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MUST BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK WITH YOUR "WONDERFUL" IDEA WITH THE TAXPAYERS $$$$....
Because of the many rural two lane roads, and the explosive (and boring) home tracts being built in the area, the traffic in Southwest Riverside County California has become RIDICULOUS!!!
When Jeff Stone was the mayor in Temecula, CA he had human traffic directors helping out at the worst tied up areas until signals could be installed.
After he became the county supervisor for the SW Riv. County area, he decided to implement his idea here too at a problem frontage road 4-way stop by I-215. This is all fine and good, but did he have to plaster his name on the sign announcing it too???????
Is this an upcoming trend??? Will we have signs for everything from Jeff Stone? THIS NEW SIGNAL, OR STOP SIGN, OR POT HOLE REPAIR, OR BRIDGE, BROUGHT TO YOU BY JEFF STONE?
WHAT AN ARROGANT JERK!!!!!!!!!!
A THUMBS DOWN TO JEFF STONE & HIS IDEA
Roses and raspberries
1 FEBRUARY 2006
By: The Californian -
A raspberry ---- the "Tilting at Windmills" award ---- to county Supervisor Jeff Stone, who plans to ask his fellow supervisors to join San Diego and San Bernardino counties in suing the state to overturn 1996's voter-approved medical marijuana initiative. It's an ill-advised waste of time and money and nose-thumbing at the voters of California (who, by the way, have reaffirmed their support for the humanitarian use of marijuana in numerous polls before and since the initiative passed). The conflict between state and federal law ---- which doesn't recognize any legitimate uses for marijuana ---- is long-established, and it's clear that the U.S. Supreme Court will have to be the ultimate arbiter of this and similar laws in 10 other states.
It's questionable whether counties, which are essentially arms of the state government, have the legal standing to sue states, and there is little evidence of any widespread abuse of the medical marijuana laws. And, in fact, the portion of the law Stone wants the county to fight is the part that requires them to issue identification cards to people eligible to legally use the drug, so he is in essence fighting the very controls the county should have to keep it from being abused.
It's also rather disquieting to hear Republicans ---- as Stone and the majority of supervisors in all three counties are ---- assert the supremacy of federal law over state law when it suits their interests, but argue in favor of states' rights, not to mention the inviolability of majority rule, in many other circumstances. Riverside County should pass on Stone's proposal and let its neighbors fight this quixotic battle.
1 FEBRUARY 2006
By: The Californian -
A raspberry ---- the "Tilting at Windmills" award ---- to county Supervisor Jeff Stone, who plans to ask his fellow supervisors to join San Diego and San Bernardino counties in suing the state to overturn 1996's voter-approved medical marijuana initiative. It's an ill-advised waste of time and money and nose-thumbing at the voters of California (who, by the way, have reaffirmed their support for the humanitarian use of marijuana in numerous polls before and since the initiative passed). The conflict between state and federal law ---- which doesn't recognize any legitimate uses for marijuana ---- is long-established, and it's clear that the U.S. Supreme Court will have to be the ultimate arbiter of this and similar laws in 10 other states.
It's questionable whether counties, which are essentially arms of the state government, have the legal standing to sue states, and there is little evidence of any widespread abuse of the medical marijuana laws. And, in fact, the portion of the law Stone wants the county to fight is the part that requires them to issue identification cards to people eligible to legally use the drug, so he is in essence fighting the very controls the county should have to keep it from being abused.
It's also rather disquieting to hear Republicans ---- as Stone and the majority of supervisors in all three counties are ---- assert the supremacy of federal law over state law when it suits their interests, but argue in favor of states' rights, not to mention the inviolability of majority rule, in many other circumstances. Riverside County should pass on Stone's proposal and let its neighbors fight this quixotic battle.
RIVERSIDE COUNTY TO MULL JOINING MEDICAL MARIJUANA SUIT
HERE'S JEFF STONE BUTTING INTO STUFF HE SOULDN'T..... I GUESS HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT THE CALIFORNIA VOTERS VOTED FOR!!!
County to mull joining medical marijuana suit
By: JOSE CARVAJAL - Staff Writer
Supervisor Jeff Stone wants Riverside County to join its neighbors to the north and south in attempting to overturn California's medical marijuana law. At Stone's urging, the Board of Supervisors is expected to discuss in closed session Tuesday whether to join San Diego and San Bernardino counties in suing the state over the 9-year-old "Compassionate Use Act" ---- Proposition 215 ---- which allows the "seriously ill" to obtain and use marijuana for medicinal purposes.
Stone, a pharmacist, said Prop. 215 contradicts a federal law that classifies marijuana as an illegal drug." I believe that the federal law trumps the state law," Stone said. "All of the federal laws have to be equally or more adhered to because the federal laws supersede all other laws in the United States of America."San Diego County officials filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court on Jan. 20 making the same argument. It is believed to be the first lawsuit that seeks to overturn any of the medical marijuana laws approved by voters in 11 states. The suit argues that states have to bow to a federal law that makes all marijuana use illegal and says it has no medicinal value. It cites Article VI of the U.S. Constitution ---- known as the "Supremacy Clause" ---- which makes the Constitution and federal laws "the supreme law of the land."
"The issue is, the state's asking the county to do something here that they know darn well is illegal," San Diego County Supervisor Bill Horn said at the time. It took a week for San Bernardino County supervisors to decide that they wanted to file their own lawsuit. It is expected that the two suits will be consolidated and that Riverside County's ---- if ultimately filed ---- would join them.Area medical marijuana advocates could not be reached for comment Wednesday. Stone said the lawsuit would ultimately settle what has been a confusing situation for counties, which have had to regulate medical marijuana use while questions regarding its legality have gone unanswered." Hopefully, this lawsuit will give the counties some guidelines as to how to move forward," he said. Rather than wait and see what happens with the suits filed by the other counties, Stone said Riverside County should jump in so that judges who decide the case can see that there are many counties in the state that are grappling with the issue.If the county goes ahead with the lawsuit, he said, it will not suspend a state-mandated identification card program that prevents someone from being arrested for possessing medical marijuana.Eighty-five cards have been issued through the program since it began in December, county public health officials said Wednesday.
The Board will consider the matter Tuesday at the County Administrative Center, 4080 Lemon St., Riverside.Contact staff writer Jose Carvajal at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2624, or jcarvajal@californian.com.
County to mull joining medical marijuana suit
By: JOSE CARVAJAL - Staff Writer
Supervisor Jeff Stone wants Riverside County to join its neighbors to the north and south in attempting to overturn California's medical marijuana law. At Stone's urging, the Board of Supervisors is expected to discuss in closed session Tuesday whether to join San Diego and San Bernardino counties in suing the state over the 9-year-old "Compassionate Use Act" ---- Proposition 215 ---- which allows the "seriously ill" to obtain and use marijuana for medicinal purposes.
Stone, a pharmacist, said Prop. 215 contradicts a federal law that classifies marijuana as an illegal drug." I believe that the federal law trumps the state law," Stone said. "All of the federal laws have to be equally or more adhered to because the federal laws supersede all other laws in the United States of America."San Diego County officials filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court on Jan. 20 making the same argument. It is believed to be the first lawsuit that seeks to overturn any of the medical marijuana laws approved by voters in 11 states. The suit argues that states have to bow to a federal law that makes all marijuana use illegal and says it has no medicinal value. It cites Article VI of the U.S. Constitution ---- known as the "Supremacy Clause" ---- which makes the Constitution and federal laws "the supreme law of the land."
"The issue is, the state's asking the county to do something here that they know darn well is illegal," San Diego County Supervisor Bill Horn said at the time. It took a week for San Bernardino County supervisors to decide that they wanted to file their own lawsuit. It is expected that the two suits will be consolidated and that Riverside County's ---- if ultimately filed ---- would join them.Area medical marijuana advocates could not be reached for comment Wednesday. Stone said the lawsuit would ultimately settle what has been a confusing situation for counties, which have had to regulate medical marijuana use while questions regarding its legality have gone unanswered." Hopefully, this lawsuit will give the counties some guidelines as to how to move forward," he said. Rather than wait and see what happens with the suits filed by the other counties, Stone said Riverside County should jump in so that judges who decide the case can see that there are many counties in the state that are grappling with the issue.If the county goes ahead with the lawsuit, he said, it will not suspend a state-mandated identification card program that prevents someone from being arrested for possessing medical marijuana.Eighty-five cards have been issued through the program since it began in December, county public health officials said Wednesday.
The Board will consider the matter Tuesday at the County Administrative Center, 4080 Lemon St., Riverside.Contact staff writer Jose Carvajal at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2624, or jcarvajal@californian.com.
